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Wine as sacramental matter and the use of unfermented grape juice

Patrick J. McSherry

Wine as sacramental matter and the use of unfermented grape juice

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Published .
Written in English

    Subjects:
  • Lord"s Supper -- Wine.

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    Statementby Patrick J. McSherry.
    The Physical Object
    Paginationii, 209 leaves ;
    Number of Pages209
    ID Numbers
    Open LibraryOL18271994M

      First it wasn't grape juice, because the Holy Ghost is not likened unto grape juice, it's likened unto wine, more specifically "new wine" because new wine is sweet and strong, powerful. Just a swig of new wine was potent and a few more could have you swingin off the raftors, which means with God inside one will be a powerhouse. The Celebration Cup is perfectly designed to fit your communion trays. Peel back the air-tight seal to reveal the unleavened wafer. Remove the interior air-tight seal to drink the grape juice. Not approved for use by the HOLY SEE.


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Wine as sacramental matter and the use of unfermented grape juice by Patrick J. McSherry Download PDF EPUB FB2

Get this from a library. Wine as sacramental matter and the use of unfermented grape juice. [Patrick J McSherry]. But it is not an Wine as sacramental matter and the use of unfermented grape juice book whether we use grape juice or wine.

When we use wine we are certain we are using the right thing. If we should use grape juice we would bring uncertainty into the matter. We quote from the Report of “Mittleren Dist.” of Missouri Synod,p. “If 8 Apol. I, 65, [from Wismar, ].File Size: 86KB. Whenever wine is served “unfermented grape juice” must be provided as an alternative and clearly identified.

Episcopal Church rubrics allow leavened or unleavened bread, and wafers or Author: Richard Ostling. unfermented communion wine is also zero rated (but fermented communion wine is standard rated) unfermented grape juice for use at the Jewish seder or kaddish (sic!)is zero rated provided it is marked prominently in English ‘for sacramental use only’ "Zero-rated" means that there is a.

The common word for wine in the New Testament is "oinos." As we know, in Bible times there was no means of keeping grape juice unfermented, so grape juice inevitably turned into wine as we know it today. There was another Greek word, "gleukos," which means sweet wine, or new wine.

It occurs only once in the New Testament (Acts ). Grandma attended a Baptist church—and was the era right before prohibition when the temperance movement was at its peak—so my guess is that her church used grape juice (or “unfermented communion wine”) for communion.

Unfermented Communion Wine. Stem fifteen pounds grapes, boil in three quarts water until they come to pieces, then. Unfermented grape juice is a crossword puzzle clue. Clue: Unfermented grape juice. Unfermented grape juice is a crossword puzzle clue that we have spotted 8 times.

There are related clues (shown below). The Protestant practice of traditionally substituting grape juice for wine during communion must largely be credited to one man - Thomas Bramwell Welch.

From Wikipedia. While some Christians consider the use of wine from the grape as essential for the validity of the sacrament, many Protestants also allow (or require) pasteurized grape juice as a substitute.

As a ruling elder who prepared Presbyterian communion with Welch’s, I wanted to pass on one protestant explanation of the water into wine miracle.

Supposedly “new wine” was how the Romans referred to unfermented wine (i.e. grape juice) and this is what Jesus created at Cana and this is why protestants use grape juice at communion. Riiiiight. The majority of mainstream liturgical churches, such as the Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox Church, require that sacramental wine should be pure grape wine.

However, some Christian churches disapprove of the consumption of alcohol, especially by children, and hold that it is acceptable to substitute grape juice for wine (see Christian. The fresh, unfermented juice of the grape was a sweet, refreshing alternative to water and enjoyed in that culture much like our sweet tea is enjoyed here in the south.

However, the bible also refers to a wine that is a strong drink and intoxicant, and with it are many warnings against its consumption. He objected to alcoholic wine being used in Communion, so in he "successfully pasteurizes Concord grape juice to produce an "unfermented sacramental wine"" (from the Welch's Grape Juice website).

Apparently, some other churches followed his lead, replacing alcoholic wine with grape juice. Wine or Grape Juice in the Sacrament. Thread starter the utmost success to the abstinence cause, and, therefore, trust that there will be no pressing of the question of unfermented wine at the Communion, for it will not promote the cause, and will create much heartburning, and, worst of all, it will be contrary to the Divine precedent.

Tischendorf wrote of a visit to Coptic monasteries in Egypt in“Instead of wine they use a thick juice of the grape, which I at first mistook for oil.” Aristotle said the wine of Arcadia was so thick it was necessary to scrape it from the wineskins and dissolve it in water (Patton, Bible Wines).

Subject: Re: Exposing the grape juice myth Date: Feb 24 Author: Fedelm As a homebrewer who makes beer and wine, if you leave grape juice out without refrigeration, the wild yeasts will start fermenting. Until relatively recently in human history, it was safer to drink wine and other alcoholic beverages instead of water.

It is a definitive doctrine of the Catholic Church that only pure and natural grape wine can be employed as valid matter for transubstantiation into the blood of Christ.

The Code of Canon Law declares: “The most holy Sacrifice of the Eucharist must be celebrated in wine to which a small quantity of water is to be added The wine must be natural, made from grapes of the vine. Or, until around when Thomas Bramwell Welch figured out how to pasteurize grape juice making non-alcoholic wine easily accessible to those who went through the trouble of making it themselves.

At the time the temperance movement was in full-swing and many churches adopted the use of Welch's grape juice in the Lord's Supper out of a desire. The reason that grape juice was permissible in the Gemara was because it was, in essence, unfermented wine.

However our grape juice, in order to preserve the grape juice it is necessary to pasteurize it, effectively neutering its potentiality of becoming wine.

Thus, argued Rabbi Hurewitz, it was not the same as the grape juice of the Gemara. Some Methodists use grape juice, some use wine; but yes, Welch was a Methodist and, like many Methodists at the time, deeply concerned about alcoholism and its effects on family members (usually women and children) and involved in the early AA-type movements.

The juice of the purple grape is not red, but the coloring matter is in the husks, and can be extracted only by alcohol and acid, or wine. It is not soluble in the unfermented juice. As red wine was prescribed for the Passover, the wine ordinarily drunk at that feast was certainly fermented. Sacramental wine, Communion wine or altar wine is wine obtained from grapes and intended for use in celebration of the Eucharist (referred to also as the Lord's Supper or Holy Communion, among other names).

The same wine, if intended for use in ceremonies of non-Christian religions or for ordinary use, would not normally be described by these terms. A minister today needs caution when using unfermented grape juice and simply calling it ‘wine’ during a communion service.

Participants may become confused, unless it is specifically stated that it is not the fermented type. They may know the term ‘wine’ is variously understood by different Christians (more so than other terms).

Would you pour grape juice or molasses on a wound. The Greek word oinos is also used in John 2 where Jesus turned water into wine by a divine miracle.

It is used in I Timothythe command of Paul, "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.".

Only Nazirites were prohibited from drinking any wine at all, and their restrictions included grape juice, grapes, grape skins, raisins, etcany part of what grew on a grapevine (Numbers ). I also think that Jesus probably did drink real wine; otherwise, the Pharisees' accusations about His eating and drinking wouldn't have made any.

The United Methodist Book of Worship says, copyrighted in says “Although the historic and ecumenical (or universal, across the board) Christian practice has been to use wine, the use of unfermented grape juice by The United Methodist Church and its predecessors since the late nineteenth century expresses pastoral concern for recovering.

According to wiki, Thomas Bramwell Welch developed the pasteurization of grape juice for his church, where they wanted to use only unfermented grape juice instead of wine. I would guess some tried to use fresh-squeezed juice for a while before – bit chaser Jul 19 '14 at   Well, even if Jesus DID drink grape juice as the "fruit of the vine", He would have had only alcoholic wine at Passover, which as a practicing Jew, He would have observed.

Unfermented wine has yeast in it whereas wine, once it's fully fermented, has no more wine left in it (that's the stuff at the bottom of the wine - the "lees"). Inan American Methodist minister developed what he called, “Unfermented Wine.” He did so by applying Louis Pasteur’s pasteurization process to grape juice--stopping the natural fermentation process of the grapes, and thereby preventing the juice from turning into : The Parkway Church.

Natural wine or God-made grape juice is always unfermented, alcohol is not produced till the juice has been expressed by man, and allowed to ferment. In the Bible "leaven" or ferment is the symbol of moral corruption; and the use of intoxicating wine at Holy Communion is altogether unscriptural. Ordained Servant Online.

Wine or Grape Juice: Theological and Pastoral Reflections on the Fruit of the Vine in Communion. John W. Mahaffy. For many years, probably from the time of the organization of this church as a separate congregation, the body has used grape juice in the Lord's Supper.

Recently the session has begun to look at the issue of using wine, either in place of or in addition to. I was brought up in the Lutheran tradition. In my current church, the communicant has the choice of the common cup or an individual cup.

We also have the option of picking up a prefilled cup of grape juice as we approach the altar. That pretty much takes care of wine vs. grape juice. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly called the "Mormon" church) does use water in place of wine or grape juice for the Sacrament (similar to Communion, Eucharist, Lord's.

The word wine could be used to describe fermented and unfermented grape juice. Wine can never be translated as Welch’s grape juice. But, the original Hebrew and Greek words that are translated “wine” in the Bible can mean unfermented grape juice.

As far as the sacramental issue is concerned, I believe we can conclude that neither the use of wine nor the use of grape juice is wrong in the observance of the sacrament, although there is strong Biblical precedent for the use of wine.

In my own view the issue of frequency of observance is of considerably more weight than questions about the. How to Make Sacramental Wine.

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The use of wine or grape juice is neither commanded nor prohibited. The Passover feast eaten by Jesus and his apostles had at least two elements not mentioned in Exodus: (1) something like gravy in which to dip the bread (Mark ; John ), and (2) “the fruit of.

But even in that case, alcohol-free wine would be preferable in my book; I find grape juice sickeningly over-sweet and a less than satisfying substitute.

But even discussing this in some quarters invites an attack on one's motives (which I know from personal experience), and that. Found 0 sentences matching phrase "unfermented|partially fermented grape juice|wine".Found in 0 ms.

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Similarly allowed is “mustum” wine with fermentation halted soon after it begins so alcohol content is under 1 percent. But some alcohol is required so non-alcoholic mustum or pasteurized grape juice are “invalid matter for Mass.”Author: Richard Ostling.

Grape juice into fermenter 1, add yeast (high alc type only), the 2kg sugar, place an air permeable but insect and debris proof cover over it and let bubble away under aerobic fermentation for about 7 days, gently stir daily with a clean spoon / rod, transfer over to fermenter 2 (Fermenter 1 can be used for another load of juice maybe try white.

Despite rising costs and pressure to lower our quality, we stay true to our heritage, producing % pure grape wine for sacramental use. O-Neh-Da Authentic Sacramental Wine is available only to churches and members of the clergy, for sale direct from the Vineyard and .For the same reason we should not be using fermented grape juice as that also contains leaven.

Finally, there is a subtle point people tend to overlook. "No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities" (I Timothy ). Paul had to urge Timothy to use a little alcoholic wine for medicine.

It was unfermented wine, which was grape juice, He never drank fermented wine. And even more so when they held up the vinegar wine for Him to drink on the cross, which helped with the pain, He wouldn't drink that, because He had to feel it all, so that the sacrifice for all of mankind's sin would be complete.